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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:52 am 
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Sotanaht wrote:
Isabella's face is SO much uglier up close.

Mean. eye of the beholder, and all that. Looks nice to me.

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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 12:14 pm 
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Unlike a bad-hare day, if she tried to cuddle Bun-Bun.

Heh. Yes. But I can see her confusion.

Man, I can't wait to see if this changes anything. What cards hasn't she shown so far?

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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:49 pm 
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Sotanaht wrote:
On the other hand, it all pretty much works out for Torg in the end every time. He lost alternate-dimension Zoe and took it pretty hard, but ultimately everyone he cares about in the real dimension has managed to survive everything anybody but Torg himself threw at them. I'm just saying his perception of "monsters" might be a little lopsided compared to Izzy, who has literally lost everyone so far to them.


Quite so, backwards-Thanatos. Torg hasn't lost anyone, but Izzy has.

Also, Torg has seen that Sam stays nice even after having become a vampire. But on the other hand, there's always a risk that a vampire will start killing in the end. Who knows what he will be like when all his friends have died from old age, and he starts seeing humans as short-lived creatures? And who knows how the Embrace affects the mind in the long run - does it change a person no matter what, or can he find it? We don't know. Izzy and Riff are right to want to be on the safe side, but Torg is also right in saying Sam remains Sam.

And on the third hand, they need Sam against Hereti-Corp right now.

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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 7:24 pm 
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Silverwalker wrote:
Torg hasn't lost anyone, but Izzy has.


He's already lost Zoe once.

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 Post Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2016 10:57 pm 
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Spirantz wrote:
Silverwalker wrote:
Torg hasn't lost anyone, but Izzy has.
He's already lost Zoe once.
That doesn't count. She came back. So he never truly lost her.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:19 am 
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But he didn't lose her to vampires.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:32 am 
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Zillatain wrote:
Spirantz wrote:
Silverwalker wrote:
Torg hasn't lost anyone, but Izzy has.
He's already lost Zoe once.
That doesn't count. She came back. So he never truly lost her.

You don't count.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:57 am 
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Spirantz wrote:
You don't count.
What? Are you referring to DoL Zoe? But she wasn't his Zoe.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 1:52 am 
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Zillatain wrote:
Spirantz wrote:
You don't count.
What? Are you referring to DoL Zoe? But she wasn't his Zoe.


He was with DoL Zoe a lot longer than he's been with sluggy-prime Zoe. Bedroom-wise. Preeeeeeeetty sure I remember him being heart broken and avoided sluggy-prime zoe for AGES because it hurt too much.

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 Post Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2016 11:10 am 
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Silverwalker wrote:
Also, Torg has seen that Sam stays nice even after having become a vampire.


Sam isn't "nice," Torg just has a blind spot when it comes to his friends. A consistent theme in the strip has been Torg's willingness to look the other way when "people" like Sam, Aylee and Bun-Bun leave a trail of death and destruction in their wake.

Riff has always been more uncomfortable with all of it, although there have also been hints that Riff is just as destructive as any of Torg's other friends.

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