It's because I'm Irish isn't it?

[Jorodryn]

I figured out why everyone disagrees with me here. It can't be because you have other ideas that are fundamentally different than mine. It can't be because you think that things might run better if it was done your way. It's simply because of my heritage.

[FreakyBoy]

I'm Irish.

[Stan Cold]

I as well. Of course, I rarely partake in POOP discussions since I'm not that opinionated. I merely check it so I don't have that red mark that says there are unread posts.

[OldCrow]

I'd like to say that yes, it's because you're Irish...except that I tend to agree with you more often than not. Then again, I'm a Scots Jew (or possibly a Jewish Scotsman), so what the hell - of course it's because you're Irish!

Just like the Colonel...I hate the Colonel - with his wee, beady eyes!

[Weremensh]

Hm. I'm quarter Irish, though it's northern...the heck with it. Pass the praties and confusion to the English.

But for something vaguely POOP like; ever notice how when people want to say the Euro's problems are really the fault of the nations on the periphery, and that we should listen to Central European central bankers about what to do, they never mention Ireland or Portugal?

[Stan Cold]

Bitch, you know I got no love for Portugal.

[Jorodryn]

I just get sick and tired of being labeled a racist simply because I disagree with the president's policies and he just happens to be black. Labeling the whole tea party as racist because they disagree with Obama is sickening to me. Are the African Americans that voted for Obama simply because he was black a bunch of racists? It is a very poor way to make an argument and immediately causes people to shut down and not want to listen to the other side, because the minute you call me a racist because of my viewpoint I am done listening to you. You might as well just start saying blah blah blah because from that point forward that is all I am going to hear.

Also, what about the black tea party members? What are you saying about them? Or are you assuming that there are none? Are they race traitors or self hating blacks? Come on I want to know. (sorry this portion of my rant is for Morgan Freeman directly. I only assume that one of you may be Morgan Freeman in anonymity, wanting to disguise the fact you are a Sluggy fan.)

[FreakyBoy]

We don't call Tea Party people racist because they disagree with the President. We call them racist because they question his citizenship explicitly because of his race and because they hold their protests while waving around blatantly racist imagery.

You can disagree with the President without being a racist. You cannot compare him to African tribals or African nationals without being racist.

[Steave]

Bloody Irish! You ruined Ireland!

[Kea]

Calling Obama a Socialist = not racist
Calling Obama a secret Muslim Kenyan sleeper agent = racist

[Jorodryn]

But the tea partiers are not the ones doing that. Sure it is being attributed to them. and yes there are groups of people out there that for some reason still want to make those stupid arguments, but that is not the tea party. The problem is they are being lumped together. I have been corrected in this very forum for doing the same thing. The blanket statement does not apply to everyone. I would even venture to say it does not apply to the majority.

[FreakyBoy]

If the tea party wants to disassociate themselves with those people, it needs to bar them from their protests. Period.

[CCC]

If the tea party wants to disassociate themselves with those people, it needs to bar them from their protests. Period.

How?

The protests, as I understand them, are for people who 'disagree with policy X'. Such people do disagree with policy X (on the grounds that it comes from a Super Secret Kenyan Muslim Agent). So how exactly do you lock them out? Do you hold it indoors and have someone at the door interrogate their motives? But an indoor protest isn't visible to outsiders, and a protest must be visible in order to attract attention, which in turn means that people can join it from any direction. Do you have bouncers wander through the crowd and pick them out, then throw them out? That's just asking for trouble - next thing they'll claim that these bouncers are working for the Conspiracy and infiltrating their group, and then they'll organise their own protest rally (and probably call it the Real Tea Party or something).

I think that there'll be some severe logistical problems in banning people from a protest who really don't want to be banned.

[Jorodryn]

OK so let try this from a different approach, if I labeled all socialists as anti Semitic because of what the Nazi's did do you think that is right?

[Grillick]

We really aren't asking for a lot. All it takes is public statements, at the rallies and away from them, declaring that those sentiments aren't shared by the organizers, and are expressly rejected by them.

But we won't get that because it isn't true and because that would alienate a huge chunk of their voting support.