+1 SERENITY
-3 Brazil

just an fyi, we'll be moving this thread to WGARS, as it's actually a game and better suited there.
the discussion thread is still in GC here: http://www.sluggy.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7023


+1 casablanca

- 1 indiana jones last crusade
- 1 das boot (the remake!?)
- 1 v for vendetta (good, but not in the league of the others)

clerks +1
O brother where art tho -1
matrix -2

Matrix really annoyed me.

+1 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (Spirited Away) (2001)

-1 This is Spinal Tap
-1 Serenity
-1 Galdiator

+1 Lord of the Rings (My precious!)
-3 Triplets of Belleville

+1 Das Boot
-3 The Fifth Element

Can I say please put it back in GC? That way the two threads are together, and I honestly think it belongs more there than here.

+1 Serenity
-1 E.T.
-1 The Incredibles
-1 Moulin Rouge

I'm quite unhappy about the movement of this thread. I will continue to update the scores as long as it is here; but I wish it would go back to GC. Splitting this from the discussion thread is annoying, treating it differently from the music tournament is unfair, having to go into WGARS is inconvenient, and making everyone do it is counter to the whole thing.

*sigh*

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As far as I can tell, there is no remake.

There are several versions. First, the theatrical cut, 2 and a half hours long, the one which was nominated for 6 Oscars. Then a TV miniseries of almost five hours, broadcast in Germany and Austria, was made out of the film and the footage shot for and left out of the film.
Then the Director's Cut, halfway between those two in length (3 and a half hours) and content (action of the first, character developement of the second) was made.
In 2004 the miniseries was released on DVD for American audiences (after a television showing the previous year) and titled "The Original Uncut Version".

Wiki is your friend.

The one I've seen had to have been the Director's cut, because it was longer than 2.5 but viewed prior to 2004. It is exceedingly excellent, harrowing, hard to watch at times, but expertly made and incredibly exciting.

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I'll vote:

+1 Fight Club
-3 Brazil

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THE LIST!

Scores current. 2 movies down. 109 to go.

21 12 Angry Men (1957)
19 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
15 The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the Eighth Dimension (1984)
14 Airplane! (1980)
18 Alien (1979)
18 Aliens (1986)
18 Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (Amelie) (2001)
18 American Beauty (1999)
18 American History X (1998)
18 An American in Paris (1951)
17 Annie Hall (1977)
19 Apocalypse Now (1979)
17 Batman Begins (2005)
17 Bronenosets Potyomkin (Battleship Potemkin) (1925)
18 A Beautiful Mind (2001)
15 Beauty and the Beast (1991)
18 Before Sunrise (1995) and Before Sunset (2004)
18 The Big Lebowski (1998)
19 Bladerunner (1982)
19 Blazing Saddles (1974)
19 Das Boot (1981)
14 The Breakfast Club (1985)
9 Brazil (1985)
18 Bringing Up Baby (1938)
18 Il Buono, il brutto, il cattivo (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly) (1966)
18 Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid (1969)
18 Cidade de Deus (City of God) (2002)
18 Casablanca (1942)
19 Catch-22 (1970)
18 Children of Men (2006)
18 Citizen Kane (1941)
19 Clerks (1994)
19 A Clockwork Orange (1971)
18 Donnie Darko (2001)
18 Dune (1984)
16 Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb (1964)
15 Enemy Mine (1985)
18 Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind (2004)
17 E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982)
18 Fargo (1996)
19 Ferris Bueller's Day Off (1986)
15 The Fifth Element (1997)
18 Fight Club (1999)
18 Full Metal Jacket (1987)
18 Ghostbusters (1984)
9 Gladiator (2000)
19 Glory (1989)
19 The Godfather (1972)
17 Goldfinger (1964)
18 The Great Escape (1963)
18 The Green Mile (1999)
18 Groundhog Day (1993)
18 Heavy Metal (1981)
18 High Noon (1952)
17 Der Himmel über Berlin (Wings of Desire) (1987)
17 Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989)
18 The Incredibles (2004)
15 It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World (1963)
18 Jaws (1975)
20 The Last Unicorn (1982)
20 Léon (The Professional) (1994)
18 The Lord of the Rings trilogy (2001, 2002, 2003)
18 The Magnificent Seven (1960)
16 The Matrix (1999)
18 Metropolis (1927)
18 Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975)
15 Moulin Rouge! (2001)
18 The Muppet Movie (1979)
15 Mystery Men (1999)
18 Nil By Mouth (1997)
18 Nosferatu, eine Symphonie des Grauens (1922)
17 O Brother, Where Art Thou? (2000)
18 On the Waterfront (1954)
19 Platoon (1986)
17 The Prestige (2006)
17 The Princess Bride (1987)
18 Pulp Fiction (1994)
15 The Quiet Man (1952)
19 Rashomon (1950)
19 Requiem for a Dream (2000)
16 Reservoir Dogs (1992)
18 Scarface (1983)
18 Saving Private Ryan (1998)
20 Schindler's List (1993)
16 Se7en (1995)
15 Sen to Chihiro no kamikakushi (Spirited Away) (2001)
18 Serenity (2005)
17 Sergeant York (1941)
19 The Shawshank Redemption (1994)
21 Shichinin no Samurai (Seven Samurai) (1954)
18 Sin City (2005)
18 Singin' in the Rain (1952)
17 The Sixth Sense (1999)
15 The Star Wars trilogy (1977, 1980, 1983)
18 Super Troopers (2001)
19 Taxi Driver (1976)
18 The Ten Commandments (1956)
8 This is Spinal Tap (1984)
15 Toy Story (1995)
18 Trainspotting (1996)
10 Triplets of Belleville (2003)
19 The Truman Show (1998)
18 Unforgiven (1992)
19 The Usual Suspects (1995)
18 Vertigo (1958)
15 V for Vendetta (2005)
18 What Dreams May Come (1998)
12 Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory (1971)
18 The Wizard of Oz (1939)[/quote]

I don't get this. On the face of it, it seems appallingly unfair - is your argument that a film cannot be 'great' unless you personally have heard of it? So popularity=quality? My rationale is to ignore films I haven't seen since I'm in no position to judge their greatness, so I'm leaving it to those who are. I'm only voting on films I've seen AND have a strong opinion on. Those I think deserve a place, but only somewhere midtable, I'm leaving to sink or swim depending on how the rest of you judge them.

So:
+1 Spirited Away (cos it's truly beautiful (train through lake in moonlight... *shivers with delight*) and fascinating, although some of the characterisation was a bit odd and the messages a little unsubtle: Greed Is Bad, yes we get it already!)
-2 LotR
-1 Saving Private Ryan (cos it's manipulative slush with almost no plot)

+1 Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
-3 Triplets of Bellville. (while i'm sure it's a good movie, i'm not sure it's one of the top 100. Hell it isn't even the best Animated movie on this list.)

+1 V for Vendetta
-3 Leon

+1 Blazing Saddles
-1 Groundhog Day
-1 The Sixth Sense
-1 Unforgiven

"Fair-mindedness" ruined the Music Thread, as great bands - who were often overhyped - died early while relative unknowns rode the wave of "fair-mindedness" to mediocrity or even the upper deck.

I've heard of a lot of movies; the ones on the list I haven't heard of might number at most a dozen. I often disagree with movie critics (generally, I don't enjoy pure drama) but that doesn't mean I'm not at least in some small part a movie buff. I've had cable my whole life, and have never been an outdoorsy sort, so I've spent a lot of time in front of it.

If everyone only votes on films they've heard of, then the few old and/or obscure ones on the list will, once again, ride that wave of "fair-mindedness" to the middle or the top. If these films are so great, why haven't I, a fellow that does spend a fair amount of time watching movies and listening to the introductions that come on AMC and TMC (explaining the history of the movie we're about to see,) heard of them?

Being the first doesn't make you great.

+1 Willy Wonka
-1 Sergeant York
-1 Nil by Mouth
-1 Cidade de Deus (City of God)

And note I'm still voting only -1, so instead of bitching at me, just vote those movies back up.

I also agree with the sentiments that moving this to WGARS doesn't make sense in light that the Music thread never was - but I can also see how it sets a better precident if it was decided by thread 4 or 5 of the music thread that it, too, should've been in WGARS but it was too late.

+1 This is Spinal Tap
-1 Apocalypse Now (bored me to tears... a couple interesting scens but a lot of stuff I found to be pointless)
-1 Il Buono, il brutto, il cattivo (The Good, the Bad and the Ugly) (same as Apocalypse Now, really... dragged far too much)
-1 Eternal Sunshine (I think it's trying to pretend to be far deeper and more philosophical than it actually is. Appeals to people who want to sound smart by claiming to like it)

I'm finding voting to be really hard... there are almost no movies on this list that I actually dislike, and it's completely new. A few I suspect I would dislike but haven't seen yet, and choose not to vote down this soon.

@FreakyBoy
I assume that you're voting down City of God for the reason explained just prior to your votes, that you haven't seen it and you want to keep obscures off the list... it's actually a hugely popular film, just that it's in Portugese so it's less known in North America. I highly recommend you go out and get it; note that it's fairly recent as well as foreign and foreign-language, so that it's somewhat popular in North America at all is astounding and testament to its quality.

Likewise to FB, I'm going to assume this to mean you haven't heard of the good Buckaroo. Now, I don't consider Buckaroo to be a truly great movie... however I find your negative on it quite ironic, because I think you, personally, would love it. Not that everyone would, I wouldn't be surprised to see real film buffs saying it sucked, but it definitely has its audience, and I think it's right up your alley. Check it out.